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What's new in the world of the ELCA Youth Ministry Network, with random other ministry thoughts scattered throughout.
People First?
Life and schedules change and I wound up getting to the airport earlier than I had originally thought. (We wanted Lori and the boys to get home in time to for them to get to bed ontime.) So at 8:30pm, I was wandering MSP. Looking at a schedule, I discovered that there was a flight leaving for O'Hare at 9:15pm. Hmmm...getting an earlier flight...getting to the hotel in Chicago and to bed earlier...sounds good.
I went to the gate. A transcription of the conversation:
Me: I'm wondering what are the chances of getting on this flight on 'stand by', so I can get there earlier?
Agent: Yes, we should have room. This flight is pretty wide-open.
Me: Great!
Agent: There is a $50 fee to go stand by.
Me: What?
Agent: There is a $50 fee to go stand by.
Me: But there's plenty of room.
Agent: Yes, but there is a $50 fee.
Me: Seriously? You're going to charge me $50 more to occupy an empty seat 1 hour earlier than I otherwise would?
Agent: Yes, there is a $50 fee.
Me: No thanks.
Agent: But there's plenty of room!
Me: Yeah, but it's not worth $50 bucks.
So what happened here? They could have made an ally. They could have created a sense of gratitude. It would have cost them nothing for me to switch. They have disintegrated some (not all, but some) loyalty. There is also some angst in Minneapolis because of the transitions in the NWA/Delta merger. This did not decrease the angst.
For NWA, this was an opportunity lost.
It makes me wonder though. If we approached our congregation's families...parents...even the young people, with a sense of 'customer service', what messages do we send them? Do we build trust? loyalty? gratitude? relationships? Are we doing ministry? Do we follow the letter or the spirit?
Must think more.
The Afterglow
Then we got the hotel bill, and $78k later we're back to normal.
Well, not really. Because the E is a transforming experience...so while we're back to 'normal', there is no way that 'normal' looks like it did prior to the E.
And we're heavily into E2010 already. Right now, we're pretty confident that we're going to be in Charlotte, NC for the event. But we haven't signed any contracts yet. The hotel contract is still not quite where we'd like it to be at and we have a couple of other cities vying for our presence...so we'll see what happens.
2 Days at Willow Creek
This is a little long…sorry. There is much that I have been thinking about. I just finished spending 2 days at Willow Creek Community Church in South Barrington, Illinois. I was there for the first “Reveal Conference.” It was a very full conference, with a lot of good information. There are a couple of things about it that I am processing, however.
I need to preface this by saying that I am not a Willow Creek basher. I understand the dynamics of a large church, though they take the word “large” to an extreme. This place is huge. Really huge. But I am not one who bashes big places, or who is critical because they take a certain style of church, often referred to as “seeker oriented.”
The conference itself revolved around the results from the “Reveal Study.” The study, first done by Willow Creek as a self-assessment, and then done by 500 chuches, to give it statistical significance, has compelling data and information. It is all available in two books: “Reveal” and “Follow Me.” While there is much to be learned there, the results really seemed to focus on a couple of key elements:
- The need and desire to take the study of scripture seriously.
- That churches that set a high bar/expectation for personal growth have more effectiveness.
What I have spent most of my time thinking about is worship.
A session was dedicated to how churches provide meaningful worship experiences. The worship band from Gateway Church in Dallas, TX was invited up to lead worship, and the pastor from there delivered the message. The whole thing was a little bit overwhelming. I’ll focus on a few of the elements:
- Music. The band was really good. Too good. A total of 10 people, who all appeared to be “A” players who could have been on stage with any major musician ou tour made up the group. The quality and production values were amazing. Unfortunately, for me this created a distance between the experience of the ‘worship leader’ and the experience of the worshipper. I found it hard to worship because I was so attuned to what THEY were doing. They got in the way. In all fairness, it didn’t appear that others had the same experience as I. The arms were up and people were singing with a sense of joy.
- The Message. The message was all about the need to go deep and to be authentic in our worship. Ok. It focused on “if we’re not committed, why should those we lead be committed?” Ok. There wasn’t much in the way of gospel. No, there wasn’t anything in the way of gospel.
- The Liturgy. Yes, I am being serious, and no, there wasn’t any. I didn’t expect any in the traditional sense. That’s not what I’m talking about. I’m talking about it in the form of the ‘work of the people.’ We were encouraged to focus on the worship leader and to sing. But there wasn’t any other response that wasn’t coercive. Example: The pastor talked about raising praises to God and that we were all going to shout as loud as we can. Moment of full-disclosure: I don’t like to shout. But the pastor said something like “the Psalms talk about lifting our voices…of singing…of shouting to God. So if you’re not used to it, or not comfortable with it, you’d better get used to it, but that’s what heaven is going to be like.” Really? Bummer for me then.
- The “Me” Factor. One of the findings of the Reveal Study is that there are four primary categories or types of people in terms of faith formation: Explorers, Beginnners, Growing and Committed. Ok. There are some problems here, but actually I think categories like this can be helpful and the data from the study does a good job of supporting this information. But one of the interesting (and helpful) things about the category of “Committed Christian” is that the Commmitted Christian knows that it’s not about them and that they are able/capable of getting out of the way and naming God in their life, the lives of others and in the world. But this was directly in contrast with my worship experience. In this worship experience, there was no getting out of the way. It was about the leader. It was about what the leader did. It was “I want to create a worship experience”. It was “I want to take people from the front porch to the altar.” I understand about the key role of quality leadership. However, God was not mentioned. There was nothing about what God does in worship. There was nothing about the role God plays in transformation. I think it was implied, but it certainly wasn’t explicit. The leaders did nothing to get out of the way.
These are just my observations and reactions. They are not gospel either. I could easily be wrong. I’m just writing from my observations. And I write because I am processing and learning. I don’t mean to imply that we (I) have it down perfectly yet. Far from it. There are lots of problems with the worship experiences where I play a leadership role.
And I did learn from this experience. I learned about what I think about worship. I certainly learned more about what I don’t like. But most importantly, I learned about leadership, and the importance of stepping aside and letting God do God’s work in the midst of the people. I’m going to have to think about when and where I do (and don’t) get out of the way.
Peace,
Todd.
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Ed Kay is my hero
The new "Connect" Journal is out
We've got to to to New Orleans
Let's Stop Saying "Student Ministry"
In any case,calling teenagers students is a travesty that must stop. Please, please changethe language back to youth and teenagers. Here’s why:
- A lot of teenagers are, in fact, not students. Many are school dropouts. Are they not worthy of Christian youth ministry? Do we want to systematically exclude them through our labels? Also, some teenagers are home-educated. Do they not belong in the youth group because they’re not students like their peers who attend traditional schools? Jesus is for all teenagers. Why adopt the constrictive student ministry when not all youth are students?
- Student ministry subtly (and oddly) singles out teenagers from the whole people of God. No church has an Employed Adult Ministry or a Home-maker Minister or Retired Seniors Minister. So why should the church define its ministry to youth around the institutional social status of student? I think this label subtly isolates youth as a subculture to be treated differently. The church needs to be moving in the exact opposite direction when it comes to teenagers.
- Student lingo passively allows the culture’s dominant institutions to define for the church who youth are and how the church thinks about them. Young people, especially in view of the gospel, are fundamentally persons, not students. Their status as students is only one aspect of some teenagers’ lives, and often a very unhappy one at that!
Why should the church embrace the categoriesand vocabulary of our schooling society, with all its performance-basedstructures and practices? We should, instead, push back on society’s labels byinsisting that teenagers are referenced by the full depth, richness, andcomplexity of their personhood. They should be hearing from us: “Unlike most ofthe rest of society, we understand and value you in the fullness of who you are.Here among God’s people we know you as real human persons—you don’t have toperform to be accepted here. Please be your real selves.”
When I talk toyouth ministers about this, most tell me they’ve never reflected on theimplications of tagging teenagers with a student label. Well, I think it’s timeto think about it. There’s no good reason to define youth through the lens of asingle social role. Our terms shape what we assume and how we think. I’m askingChristian youth workers all over the country (you!) to change your “shaping”language—to use language that honors teenagers as whole human persons in God’skingdom. Please stop calling teenagers students, and ask everyone around you todo the same.
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Chris is the director of the National Study of Youthand Religion, co-author of the resulting book Soul Searching, William R. Kenan,Jr. professor of sociology at the University of Notre Dame, and director of theCenter for the Study of Religion and Society. He lives in Indiana.
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